The file format of AutoCAD is DWG. Over the years I have heard it pronounced so many ways and I wanted to hear from you, and why.
Do you say the letters D W G? (That’s what I do.)
Do you say DraWinG
Or do you say Dwig, and make me cringe when you do?
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I spell out the letters both when I say it in English as well as in Swedish.
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Shaan, Given that Autodesk pioneered the dwg format and proliferated it, I sure wish they would protect it by handling the excess app id problem, and how “arx objects from higher versions” are allowed in a dwg. Those two issues are driving a lot of things that Autodesk may choose to ignore, but will be hit with hard sometime. This thing of evolving the dwg format in proprietary ways will lose its glitter soon, as the fact is its so good now that 3rd party tools can do whats needed without evolution. I would think Autodesk would rather spend its energy on ways of updating drawings by “delta” change for remote servers, so things like cloud storage could actually be fast.
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We have done a fair amount of work related to app ids due to some limited 3rd parties using them and the API incorrectly. We have had to place purge and other internal functions and code handling for them as there is no silver bullet without possibly affecting those using the API legitimately.
If there was an easy solution without impacting legitimates, then we would have already had that in place given the amount of work we have done and the amount of pain felt by our customers that run into the app id from old DWG files. Perhaps speaking to a API programming guru like Kean Whalmsley can provide more insight. http://through-the-interface.typepad.com/
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Yes, I remember when Autodesk at one point popularized pronouncing that Dwif as in Dwif it. I remember plastic beachballs in a pond at some AU all with the letters DWF on them.
I say the letters for both DWG and DWF.
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I pronounce it DeeDoubleyouGee. I never liked Dwif and have always used DeeDoubleyouEff.
Dwing? Really? …sounds too much like “shwing!”
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Indeed, your team has gone out of their way to help clean drawings after they are contaminated. Kean and the ADN team provided .net code to clean dwgs without opening them in editor, the only way that works when xrefs you cannot detach have the app ids too.
I guess I am asking for architectural changes or at least an idea of why a registered app id from an xref is needed if the xref is detached.
I will send that Kean’s way.
So its not an easy issue. Think about this though, what if Bricscad did not allow infection of drawings with xref app ids. The answer might be that would break acad, but when industry says a fix is needed, not a workaround, I am hoping Autodesk is seriously considering breaking some things to allow the fix. In other words, things reliant on app ids from xrefs, are proving to be bad things, worse than any other advantage you can provide. That conclusion may break down if I understood things more, but its what I am thinking.
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my 11 year old would answer like this (at the dinner table for added effect):
I say dwg as “dee-doubleyou-eff”.
Then you nievely say “there is no f in dwg”…
then they laugh at you.
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Internally (in my head) I say “DaWG” and picture a happy puppy (hey, whatever delusion works to keep me amused) but I think most people are used to hearing the letters, D-W-G in this case, so that’s my outer-voice answer.
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LMFAO…..
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I’m from the south so it’s Dee Dub-ya Gee. Yeah I as well as most people I know say the letters for both. Dub-ya might be under copyright so I might have to change how I say it.
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DWIG Baby! Since I started with ACAD in about 1990. Tell you what. I’ll stop dwiging, if you promise to recognize that Frisco is a city in Texas, and don’t ask if I’m from “Cali” (That’s a city in Colombia)
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I equally cringe with the use of “Frisco” for San Francisco and “Cali” for California.
🙂
Same thing for DWF.
http://dwf.blogs.com/beyond_the_paper/2006/02/the_cool_people.html
I spell out the letters both when I say it in English as well as in Swedish.
Shaan, Given that Autodesk pioneered the dwg format and proliferated it, I sure wish they would protect it by handling the excess app id problem, and how “arx objects from higher versions” are allowed in a dwg. Those two issues are driving a lot of things that Autodesk may choose to ignore, but will be hit with hard sometime. This thing of evolving the dwg format in proprietary ways will lose its glitter soon, as the fact is its so good now that 3rd party tools can do whats needed without evolution. I would think Autodesk would rather spend its energy on ways of updating drawings by “delta” change for remote servers, so things like cloud storage could actually be fast.
We have done a fair amount of work related to app ids due to some limited 3rd parties using them and the API incorrectly. We have had to place purge and other internal functions and code handling for them as there is no silver bullet without possibly affecting those using the API legitimately.
If there was an easy solution without impacting legitimates, then we would have already had that in place given the amount of work we have done and the amount of pain felt by our customers that run into the app id from old DWG files. Perhaps speaking to a API programming guru like Kean Whalmsley can provide more insight. http://through-the-interface.typepad.com/
Yes, I remember when Autodesk at one point popularized pronouncing that Dwif as in Dwif it. I remember plastic beachballs in a pond at some AU all with the letters DWF on them.
I say the letters for both DWG and DWF.
I pronounce it DeeDoubleyouGee. I never liked Dwif and have always used DeeDoubleyouEff.
Dwing? Really? …sounds too much like “shwing!”
Indeed, your team has gone out of their way to help clean drawings after they are contaminated. Kean and the ADN team provided .net code to clean dwgs without opening them in editor, the only way that works when xrefs you cannot detach have the app ids too.
I guess I am asking for architectural changes or at least an idea of why a registered app id from an xref is needed if the xref is detached.
I will send that Kean’s way.
So its not an easy issue. Think about this though, what if Bricscad did not allow infection of drawings with xref app ids. The answer might be that would break acad, but when industry says a fix is needed, not a workaround, I am hoping Autodesk is seriously considering breaking some things to allow the fix. In other words, things reliant on app ids from xrefs, are proving to be bad things, worse than any other advantage you can provide. That conclusion may break down if I understood things more, but its what I am thinking.
my 11 year old would answer like this (at the dinner table for added effect):
I say dwg as “dee-doubleyou-eff”.
Then you nievely say “there is no f in dwg”…
then they laugh at you.
Internally (in my head) I say “DaWG” and picture a happy puppy (hey, whatever delusion works to keep me amused) but I think most people are used to hearing the letters, D-W-G in this case, so that’s my outer-voice answer.
LMFAO…..
I’m from the south so it’s Dee Dub-ya Gee. Yeah I as well as most people I know say the letters for both. Dub-ya might be under copyright so I might have to change how I say it.
DWIG Baby! Since I started with ACAD in about 1990. Tell you what. I’ll stop dwiging, if you promise to recognize that Frisco is a city in Texas, and don’t ask if I’m from “Cali” (That’s a city in Colombia)
I equally cringe with the use of “Frisco” for San Francisco and “Cali” for California.
🙂